Rafel and other things

JAI HIND

At the very outset let me say that I support Mr. Modi not because I think he is heaven sent or anything. It is because of the TINA factor. I have started the handle @NedMenon SOLELY to expose the lies be it by Congress or by BJP. I will also expose idiotic statements of anyone and every one. I will use the blog to publish it and then I will use the twitter handle to spread the truth. The aim of the blog and twitter handle is to provide a place where people can mine data on “what is the truth”.

Mister Rahul Gandhi is of view that his father's corruption in the Bofors case can be used as an example for targeting the Modi Government.

That Rajiv Gandhi was guilty is now beyond doubt. 


The tweets and rants of Mr. Gandhi are becoming shriller and shriller betraying a desperation. I will start with statements as of today alone.

The hatred is for the person of Modi – a seasoned Politician and a Bania to boot. Poor Rahul is really no match for him however much he tries with the help of the likes of Ahmed Patel, Cambridge Analytica and #pidis like Shashi Tharoor, Sam Pitodra et al in the old form and the new form with a different face with no idea of what Indian ethos is.

The theme of today’s blog is the attack regarding Rafael Jet deal.

Mr. Gandhi has no facts or figures to talk. (Remember his reaction to the question regarding Doklam, "I have no facts" yet i am ranting!!). His handlers have realised that raising the issue in Parliament can be dangerous as our "young" middle aged fellow will not be able to stand and talk without his sister and others standing around him with prompt cards so they are talking of a parliament committee. Their aim seems to be only to get the details of weapons and facilities coming with the aircraft.

I am NOT saying they are doing it for China and Pakistan which are the ONLY countries interested in knowing that data.

He has only vague assertions in the hope that some fool will believe. In fact the modus opirandi shows that he is an ardent follower of Adolph Hitler. His “big lie”- vol.1 Chapter X of Mein Kampf is famous. Those not familiar can read it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie and compare it to what Congress and Rahul Gandhi is doing.

Now let us look at the genesis of Rafel story.

The Raphael story starts in August 2007. Indian Air Force was getting old, planes need to be replaced and the Forces were clamoring for replacement aircraft. Thus was born the idea of the MMRCA competition. The next five years six different aircraft types were tried out at sea level, at Deccan Plateau, that Deserts of Rajasthan, the Himalayan heights to the very end of their envelops.

Ultimately Dassault Rafael was selected in 2012. The negotiations started, Indian bureaucracy are experts in finding out a methods how not proceed with a matter, however serious and pressing. All sorts of queries were raised.

The Government of India wanted Planes with technology and wanted the aircraft to be built in India by HAL. The price was also a factor that was delaying the decision.

The French are reliable but like the proverbial Shylock they will demand and the extract the last pound of flesh.

The American investigation revealed that HAL cannot be used for making advanced aircraft. The report was shared with the French and the Swedes. The report can be read at

The French made their own investigation with the permission of the then Defense Minister Mister Anthony. Their findings were supported by the report of the Indian Air force as well. The report on that with all the details can be had in

The French also realised that if they contracted with HAL neither time nor quality will be met nor will the price remain same and their L1 status would be in jeopardy. 

The French also clearly stated that there can be no Transfer of technology. They REFUSED to guarantee ANYTHING if HAL were to be involved.

The price negotiations reached nowhere. Rahul Gandhi is aware of all these facts and if he rants otherwise it is deliberate political nonsense that is cutting at the very root of India's security.
 
When the NDA Government took over the stage was that there was NOTHING. The French insisted that they will not partner with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. There was no consensus on the Transfer of Technology or the extent of transfer. There was no guarantee on quality time or price

The lethargic attitude of the then Defense Minister had brought us to the brink of disaster. We were facing enemies and our forces were being forced into a situation where they have to fight with stones and sticks. Mister Gandhi or for that matter anybody in the UPA Government were bothered. They knew they were going out; they wanted to leave a scorched earth for the incoming Government. The defense was in shambles, the banks had lost their entire capital base thanks to an "economist" whom late Prime Minister Mister Gandhi had called a joker, there were monies to be paid out to the NRI's for loans taken at exorbitant interest rates, money to be paid to Iran. In 2014 India was a disaster waiting to happen.
The new Government had to act fast and did so. The French and the Government of India came to a consensus and the result was the agreement to buy 36 Raphaels for $ 7.8 billion. The deal included the aircraft, customization and adaptation for Indian conditions, all weapons that were required in adequate quantity, the ability to carry Indian weapons, setting up of a training facility, setting up of 2 advanced bases, 32 Jaguar aircraft, 2 Mirage 2000s, and many other bells and whistles.

The agreement was reached in September 2016. On 18 November 2016 the details were sought in the Parliament and statement the Deputy Minister of defense gave the details. This has been duly reported by the Jane's defense people. I am quoting Jane's because if I were to quote native source, I would have been charged with quoting a tainted source.

The report can be had at 


The figures are simple. Aircraft alone cost USD103.12 million [5M lower tha what UPA was talking about.] {bakshish? I do not know}, Rest of the cost were for the other items mentioned above among others. Those details are defence secrets and will not b revealed easily because Chin and Pakistan are salivating after that.

While the deal might seem to be highly priced right now, actually it is very favorable for India. The MMRCA deal was being negotiated for just 126 Rafael in fly-away condition, nothing regarding the weapons package or maintenance had been included in it. While the current deal includes 36 Rafael in fly-away condition, also making Dassault promise an offset of more than 3 billion Euros. That means creating business worth at least 3 billion Euros for smaller Indian companies and generating thousands of new jobs in India through the offsets. It also includes the Rafael’s weapons package which would include the Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile that will also be used in LCA and possibly SU-30 and AMCA. The deal also includes simulators, spares, maintenance, and Performance Based Logistics support for five years (for five years India does not have to spend on maintenance). And never forget the 32 Jaguars and 2 Mirages and their spares.

France will also provide logistics and ground support and ensure that there is 75 percent [i.e. 27 aircraft] are operationally available at any time.

The aircraft will be customized as per the requirements of the IAF which include Helmet Mounted Displays, Radar Warning Receiver, Infra-red search and track among others advanced technologies.

There was no agreement reached by UPA so there is no basis for comparison. The comparison can be had with contemporaneous deals with Qatar and Egypt and the details can be had at 

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-qatar-rafale/france-and-qatar-seal-7-billion-rafale-fighter-jet-deal-idUKKBN0NL0RE20150430

and

http://time.com/3710118/egypt-rafale-fighter-jet-france/


But there are other factors we will examine down below.

On this background let us examine that complaint of Mister Gandhi and what he wants

The first allegation of Mr. Gandhi is that India was paying too much price. The bland statement was also alleged that the per aircraft pricing of the Rafael as per the UPA negotiation comes to Rs 526.1 Crore as against the Modi government negotiated price of Rs 1570.8 Crore. Basis for 526.1 is UNKNOWN. If it was Qatar, the details are above. if Mr. gandhi is referring to the bare follow up order it disproves his allegation as under the present deal also the Plane costs around the same figure $103Million.

Anybody could have done a due diligence and they would have known facts. Mr. Gandhi relies on the concept of the Big Lie to push his story through.

Let us start at basics. We cannot go by what Mr. Gandhi says because details of the amount or where the data comes from is unknown. So we have to rely on what others paid. Let us do a simple maths. The three countries which ordered Rafael are Qatar, Egypt and India. The figures speak for themselves.


Qatar
Egypt
India
Number of aircraft
24
24
36
Total cost
US$7Billion
5.9 billion
7.8 Billion
Unit price
291.66Million
245.33 Million
216.66 Million


You should NEVER forget that Mr. Gandhi’s party was willing to pay 10.2 Billion dollars for 126 show pieces with NO weapons, NO infra, NO training, NO enhancements and NO weapons. ie. Per vanilla aircraft it would have cost $108 million with the prospect of us being forced to pay what French demanded for the rest – the estimate I read somewhere was that there was an oral agreement for the bells and whistles to be priced at the same value with bakshish built in. A truly #Greatindianloot project!!

If Mr. Gandhi is to claim a previous agreement he will have to produce the papers and substantiate the claim. THERE NEVER WAS ANY.

The next claim is there is no TOT. Even under UPA there was to be no TOT so it is a non-starter

Third argument is that Modi excluded HAL from the process. HAL was NEVER in the game. After Timothy Roemer's report and Dassault's investigation, the fate of HAL was closed. Both links have been given above.

We all know how bad the production line of MKI is and how long it took to bring LCA into production and what the cost overruns are. The sole reason is the lethargic public Sector culture. 

4.     The fourth argument is Ambanis. Ambanis is ONE of TWENTY companies chosen by Dassault for partnering. I would simply ask show me one company who has the financial ability and experience to partner. It must also be remembered that the partnership is NOT FOR THIS RAFAEL deal and they will be producing parts for other projects of Dassault. Whatever that is when a company works it produces environment for more employment, it pays tax to Governments and generally improves the Nation. You or I cannot just go to bank and ask for a loan unlike UPA when Chokshis and Modis and Mallyas could walk in and there will be a call from the Finance Ministry give then 25% more than what they ask and do not ask for collateral. Those days are over. Mr. Gandhi forgets who sponsored and created Reliance – for a baksheesh.  

Mr. Gandhi forgets that the offset is 30K Crores. The investment with Ambani is only 100 Million Euros. Rest are yet to be hived off. It will not be to reliance.

What I have said are data that any Tom, Dick and Harry can find on the net. I am sorry that the Defense Minister or the staff did not do homework to collate and arrange data and that's where Mr. Gandhi is making a show.

In short this is just an idiotic story created as Macbeth said "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools. The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

But it is necessary that this truth be spread far and wide







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